Force-Feeding Duck Soup

Okay, so your ferret is sick and won’t eat. You have to force it to eat*, or it will die. By now you have seen the vet, maybe gotten it a water shot and some meds. But the ferret won’t get better if it doesn?t eat. When a ferret is very sick and/or dehydrated, they often won’t eat or drink on their own. They will fight you at first, but usually after a couple days, they’ll be eating on their own (or at least not fighting so badly). Once the ferret is recovered, usually you’ll find (a) it now really likes your duck soup and (b) it thinks you’re a really nice person. You’d think they’d hate you for forcing them to eat, but it doesn’t work that way. They know you’re trying to help.

According to one of my vets, a ferret needs to eat at least 60cc of some kind of duck soup** each day just to keep going. (She was referring to the canned A/D available from the vet, but it also works for the other duck soup mixtures.) I measured out 60cc to see how much that really is, and it turned out to be a Gerber baby food jar full to the very top (to where you can?t fit any more in). So when I have sick ferrets, I make sure they eat *at least* one whole baby food jar’s worth of duck soup every day. More is better. 60cc will just keep them alive. They won’t gain much weight (if any) on that, but they won’t die, either (well, not from malnutrition — something else might get them).

For a sick ferret, a little bit every 2, 3 or 4 hours is best. At the very minimum you should feed them 3 times a day. The sicker they are, the more often they should be fed. I’m lucky in that I can take sick ferrets to work with me. I put them in a carrier under my desk and just feed them every 2 or 3 hours.

The vet said a ferret’s stomach can hold at least 18cc of food per feeding. It won’t pop their tummy if you force them to swallow 18cc worth of food. I found that comforting to know. In actuality, a ferret on the mend may very well eat much more than that! But if they’re sick, you really don’t want to over-stress their system, so frequent small meals are better.

If they refuse to eat on their own, you need a syringe without the needle to squirt the food into their mouth. The easiest ones to use hold 6-10 cc. The mixture needs to be very smooth, moist and warm (but not so hot it burns the mouth). What you do is suck up the goo into the syringe, scruff the ferret and squirt a little into the back of the mouth near the back tooth. Don’t squirt it right down their throat and drown them, but put it back far enough that they have no choice but to swallow it.

Your ferret may very well put up a pretty big fight at first. Just remember they *have* to eat. Your vet will tell you when you should force feed, and probably will have recommendations on what to feed and how much. You and your vet can discuss just how long to force feed before giving up. (Remember, giving up means the ferret dies. Sometimes they can’t be saved, but I give it at least a week, unless the ferret is in severe pain.)

So you squirt a little, let them swallow (and some ferrets will spit a little out, too) and just keep at it until the required amount has been swallowed. You’ll get better as you do it. It takes a few minutes, but you won’t have to do it forever, and it’s worth it if it saves the ferret’s life.

Usually what happens is that you have to really force them to eat for the first few days, then they’ll start eating from the syringe willingly, then they’ll eat from your finger or a spoon, and then finally they?ll eat right from the bowl. Some ferrets do this more quickly than others, but so far, every ferret I’ve force-fed has eventually decided duck soup is just wonderful.

One caution: if your ferret starts to feel better, do not discontinue the supplemental feedings right away. Keep it up at least a week after they seem healed. I’ve had ferrets relapse when I stopped feeding them too soon.

If your ferret eats a lot at one sitting, 3 times a day will be okay (just make sure that it adds up to one whole baby food jar). If you’re just supplementing and they’re back on their regular food, twice a day usually is fine and you don?t have to feed as much. Be warned: sometimes it takes a very long time for them to get back on their regular food. Do not despair — when they feel well enough, they will start eating. There might be that one odd ferret who never eats on their own again, but so far all the ferrets I’ve treated have eventually started eating their regular food.

*NOTE: if your ferret has a blockage, you should not force it to eat, but take it to the vet immediately. **See Duck Soup article

Barb Carlson

Food

For the best health, ferrets need a high-quality food. This usually means it will be more expensive compared to some other foods. You might think you’re saving money by feeding less expensive food, but this isn’t true. The animal will eat more of the lower quality food and it will most likely have more (very expensive) health problems. So over the life of the ferret, it’s actually less expensive to feed them the better food.

Ferrets are strict carnivores — ALL their teeth are pointed. That means they should eat only meat. In fact, ferrets have a short digestive system (lacking the piece that digests cereals) and cannot even digest corn. So if a food has corn as the first ingredient, the manufacturer is counting the protein in the corn as part of the total protein, but the ferret won’t get any good out of it.

Soy is another grain that ferrets can’t digest, and it’s dubious how much good they get out of wheat and rice, beyond some carbohydrates (which should be kept to a minimum).

A good ferret food should have meat as the first ingredient. It?s even better if a meat source is listed more than once in the first 5 ingredients. Any food that lists corn first (or any other grain like wheat, barley, rice, etc.) is NOT a good food for a ferret. Protein should be at least 36% and fat at least 18%. More is better when it comes to protein, as long as it’s a meat-based protein.

I prefer to use foods that do not contain fish, as the fish will make the food, ferret and poop all smell stronger. It won’t hurt the ferret, though, and is a valid source of protein.

Speaking of poop, feeding high-quality food means less poop. The cheaper the food, the more they eat, and the more they poop. High-quality foods are digested more thoroughly, and therefore there is less left over to be pooped out.

Barb Carlson

Duck Soup

Duck soup is the general term for any kind of liquid or near-liquid food fed to ferrets when they’re sick, recovering from surgery, or need to gain weight. My duck soup (otherwise known as “chicken goo” or “yum yums”) is not the dry powder sold as Uncle Jim’s Duck Soup. I don’t like that much and neither do my ferrets. I think it would be fine to add it to my style of duck soup, but I don’t think you’ll get nearly as good results using just the Uncle Jim’s powder as you would using my recipe. Also, we’ve found that the poops are much firmer on this type duck soup than when they are fed just chicken or turkey baby food, canned A/D or a mix of those two foods (commonly prescribed by vets for sick ferrets).

There are many recipes for duck soup out there, some with all sorts of additives. I used to add a lot of things to my duck soup, too, but over the years I’ve found that a basic recipe of chicken and maybe a little liver works quite well. It’s well-accepted by most ferrets (or not that hard to convince them to eat it) and it definitely puts on weight. Since it includes all the bones, gristle, fat, skin, marrow, etc. it’s actually fairly nutritious for them, too. We’ve had ferrets who ate nothing but our duck soup do quite well. The only issue is that the soft food causes tartar, which must be removed. [Daily brushing works best.]

The basic idea is to cook chicken (I use chicken legs and thighs) until the bones get soft. I’m lazy — I cook it in a slow cooker for 24 hours. Some people just cook until the chicken is done, then cook the bones longer. Other people use a pressure cooker (15-20 minutes at 15 pounds pressure seems to work well).

The key to getting it very smooth is to cook until the bones crumble, then scoop out the solids and chill until cold (save all the juice and fat separately). For some reason, the cold chicken (and bones, etc.) process into a smoother, more creamy mixture if you have chilled the cooked chicken first.

I use my food processor and process a big scoop of the cold chicken goop in a food processor until it makes a ball (similar to a dough ball if you’ve used machines to make bread). The ball should race around in a circle. Then add the warmed fat and juice slowly, mixing thoroughly between additions, until it is smooth and creamy. I like to keep it pretty thick, but moist enough to pour out like cake batter.

[You can add a little cooked liver at this point, but if you get all the marrow from inside the bones, it doesn’t seem to be necessary. I used to use 1/3 cup cooked beef liver to 3 cups chicken goo but don’t anymore. If you put in too much liver, the ferrets won’t like it as much. On the other hand, ferrets used to having the liver might balk (at least at first) if you leave it out.]

Pour the resulting goo into a big dish and continue processing the rest of the solids until done. Stir the goo in the big dish (thereby evenly distributing bone, marrow, fat, etc.). Spoon into containers and freeze. If you only have one or two ferrets, you want to freeze it in containers small enough that you can use it all before it spoils. I usually get at least 4 days before it starts to smell weird. Spoiled duck soup reeks, so you can trust your nose. I’ve used empty baby food jars or small plastic snack cups. You can also freeze it in ice cube trays, then transfer to a ziplock.

We warm up about a rounded tablespoon of the soup (when cold, it’s a congealed lump but it will go back to a thick liquid after about 10 seconds in the microwave) then add enough water to make a thick broth. The sicker the ferret, the smoother and thinner they want it. If your ferret refuses to eat it due to lumps, you can press it through a metal sieve (not a colander, but a fine metal mesh sieve) with a metal spoon and get the lumps out that way. Be sure to scrape off the goo that collects on the back of the sieve and stir that in. You’ll end up with leftover tiny bone bits (if you have a dog, he will love you if you let him lick out the sieve). Most ferrets want it nice and smooth at first, but as they get used to it, they will often tolerate a few lumps here and there.

Feeding Duck Soup with syringe

How to feed duck soup using a feeding syringe

If you need to force feed your ferret*, definitely use the sieve trick. It will save you a lot of frustration since the bone pieces plug up the feeding syringe. I use a 10cc “O-ring” feeding syringe — it has a special rubber gasket that doesn’t wear out as quickly as a regular syringe. I sometimes trim the nozzle back on the syringe to where it’s a little wider to help avoid clogs. If I’ve cooked the chicken long enough in the first place (so the bone bits are very small), I can sometimes get away without using the sieve if the syringe nozzle has been cut back. [*NOTE: Do NOT force feed an unconscious ferret, or a ferret with a blockage. Blockages will often make the stomach “blow up” like a balloon. Force feeding will only stretch it out more. Blockages are a severe emergency and you should run, not walk, to the emergency vet.]

If a ferret is not eating hard food, they need to eat 60-90cc’s a day to stay alive (1cc=1ml). More is better. [A Gerber baby food jar, filled to the very top is about 60cc.] Usually I start with 20cc every 3 hours. If they want more, by all means let them eat it, but at least 20cc. As they start to get better, starting eating more each time and/or start eating hard food, you can slowly decrease the number of times you give it duck soup.

After a ferret recovers, do not suddenly stop the duck soup; I’ve had ferrets relapse doing that. Continue the feedings (twice a day) for at least a week after they are eating hard food again. It won’t hurt to give them a little every day anyway, since they most probably love the stuff by now. It’s a great treat — protein and fat with no sugar — and will make your life easier the next time they get sick, since they will just dive right in.

If a ferret is eating duck soup (or other soft food) regularly, you need to be sure to brush his teeth. The soft food causes tartar to build up much faster than hard food alone. Tartar can eventually cause serious tooth and gum disease.

Barb’s Yum-Yum Recipe

Duck soup is the general term for any kind of liquid or near-liquid food fed to ferrets when they’re sick, recovering from surgery, or need to gain weight.

My duck soup (otherwise known as “chicken goo” or “yum yums”) is not the dry powder sold as Uncle Jim’s Duck Soup. I don’t like that stuff much and neither do my ferrets. I think it would be fine to add it to some kind of duck soup, but I don’t think you’ll get nearly as good results using just the Uncle Jim’s stuff as using my recipe.

There are many recipes for duck soup out there, some with all sorts of additives. I used to add a lot of things to my duck soup, too, but over the years I’ve found that a basic chicken-only recipe works quite well. It’s well-accepted by most ferrets (or not that hard to convince them to eat it) and it definitely puts on weight.

The basic idea is to take chicken (I use chicken legs and thighs) and cook it until the bones get soft. I’m lazy — I cook it in a slow cooker for 24-36 hours. Some people just cook until the chicken is done, then cook the bones longer (it even works in a pot on the stove if you cover the bones with water).

The key step is to scoop out the solids and chill them until cold. Save all the juice and fat.

Process the cold solids in a food processor until it makes a ball (similar to a dough ball if you’ve used machines to make bread). Then add fat and juice slowly, mixing thoroughly between additions, until it is smooth and creamy.

Scoop out the goo into a big dish and continue processing like this until done. Stir the goo in the big dish (thereby evening distributing bones, marrow, fat, etc.). Spoon into containers and freeze. Thaw as needed. If you only have a couple ferrets eating it, you might want to use baby food jars. If you have more ferrets, larger plastic containers might work better. The idea is to have a container that you can use up before it goes bad. It lasts about 5-7 days in the refrigerator. You’ll know when it’s bad. Your stomach will instantly clench up at the smell.

We give about 1/2 cup, warmed and with added water to make a soup. The sicker the ferret, the more smooth and watery they want it. If your ferret refuses to eat it due to lumps, you can run it through a sieve (pressing with a metal spoon) and try to get the lumps out that way. Most ferrets want it nice and smooth, but as they get used to it, they will often tolerate a few lumps here and there.

If you need to force feed your ferret, press the soup through a sieve. It will save you lots of frustration since the bone pieces plug up the syringes.

If a ferret is not eating hard food, they need to eat 60-90 cc (same as ml) a day to stay alive. More is better. After a ferret recovers, do not suddenly stop the duck soup as I’ve seen them relapse many times. Continue the feedings until at least a week after they are back to normal. It won’t hurt to give them a little every day anyway, since they most likely love the stuff by now. It’s a good treat — protein and fat with no sugar.

Barb Carlson

A Discussion About Food

After doing a lot of research, it seems the less grain in the food the better. They don’t even digest corn, wheat, soy, etc. (they might digest a little rice or wheat, but that?s just a carbohydrate source and should be minimal) so any protein in corn, etc. are counted in the analysis don’t really do the ferret any good. Corn especially seems to be linked to bladder stones in ferrets.

What I recommend is to read the ingredient list and see what is listed. Items like “turkey”, “chicken”, “turkey meal”, “chicken meal” are better sources of meat protein than “chicken by-product meal” or “chicken digest. Little or no corn (the farther back in the list, the less of it is in the food). I don’t like soy for ferrets, either.

Another objection I have to grains is that you are always hearing of recalls due to poisonous molds growing on the grain. No grain, no worries about molds. That whole “tainted wheat from China” really put me off foods with wheat in them, too. What are American companies doing buying wheat from China anyway?

If you look at the ingredient lists for the foods you use, you’ll see:

8-in-1 Ultimate: Chicken, Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin E, Beta Carotene and Rosemary), Chicken Digest, Raisin Juice, Banana Puree, Fish Oil, Garlic Oil, Taurine, Dried Whole Egg,… Protein: 45%, Fat: 16%

The first 5 ingredients are the most important. Chicken and chicken meal are very good sources of protein. Then rice (which is okay but not thrilling) and chicken fat (preserved with *natural* things, not BHA or something else toxic). So Ultimate is a good food. I’m not thrilled with the “raisin juice” but that’s pretty far back there.

Kaytee Forti-Diet: Poultry Meal, Poultry By-Product Meal, Brewers Rice, Poultry Fat, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Ground Wheat, Dried Egg Product, Soy Oil, Beet Pulp, Fish Meal … Protein: 35%, Fat: 20%

Poultry meal is okay but because they’re not being specific, it makes me suspicious they’re trying to hide the source. Poultry by-product meal is not as nutritious as some sources of protein. Then we have rice, fat (which they later say is preserved with mixed Tocopherols, which is okay), but then we have soybean meal and wheat. So in the first 6 ingredients, you have grains/carbs listed 3 times. Better than a lot of foods out there, but still high. Compared to the 8in1 Ultimate, which has a carb/grain source listed once in the first 5 ingredients (although raisin juice is 6th and that’s a carb), the Ultimate comes out looking better than the Kaytee. At least Kaytee doesn’t have corn.

Not all ferret foods are created equal, and a manufacturer that makes a decent food often will make a seriously inferior food under a similar name and market it to poor people. Walmart is a great example. 8in1 sells “Premium Ferret Food” in a box. That stuff has only 30% protein, 8% fat and the first 5 ingredients are: Poultry By-Product Meal, Brewers Rice, Ground Yellow Corn, Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken Fat… You can see that it’s a very low-quality food. Who knows how much protein a ferret actually gets from that food with a low-quality meat source and rice, corn and corn counting as part of the measly 30% protein?

Walmart also sells an 8in1 “Harvest” Ferret food that isn’t much better.

What we use here is Innova EVO foods. Even the dog food is better than most ferret foods (it’s considered a “super-high premium” food). The dog version has 42% protein, 22% fat and the first 5 ingredients are turkey, chicken, turkey meal, chicken meal and potato. [Kibbled foods (dry crunchy) need some kind of starch to hold it together. Potato is considered better because it doesn?t seem to cause stones, is easily digested and generally isn’t involved in mold issues.]

EVO contains no grains at all and is low-carb. I like the dog formula because it’s simple. They also make a ferret EVO which has even more protein, but I’ve found some of the shelter ferrets get runny poo on it because they’re not used to such high protein. So what we here is Innova EVO Dog Small Bites Turkey & Chicken Formula.

There are a couple other really high-quality cat foods out there that would make great ferret foods, too. Wellness CORE cat food and Blue Buffalo “Blue Wilderness” cat foods are two examples. They have ingredient lists similar to the EVO.

Other ferret foods that aren’t bad are Zupreem (but it’s very hard and some ferrets won’t eat it). Their first ingredients are: Chicken meal, Chicken fat, Ground wheat, Wheat flour, Chicken, Egg product … but as you see, it lists wheat twice in the first 5 ingredients, and like I said earlier, I’m leery of wheat at this point. Ferrets eating Zupreem seem to do well, though.

One highly regarded food, Totally Ferret, is one I actually don’t even like. The ingredients for their “active” formula is: Chicken by-product meal, rice flour, egg product, chicken fat, poultry fat, wheat flour, corn meal … First, the protein source is low-quality, the second ingredient is rice, and it lists wheat flour and corn meal 6th and 7th. Also, the ferrets I’ve seen on it don’t have as nice-looking fur as the ones on the Innova EVO dog!

So you can see the question of food is a very complicated one. I’ve done a lot of research on it, and I feel you’d be better off either only feeding the 8in1 Ultimate or perhaps getting some Innova EVO Dog small bites and mixing it in. The other nice thing about the EVO dog is that there is no fish and the food doesn’t stink. I find the Kaytee Forti-Diet rather fishy-smelling. Fish is an okay protein source … I just don’t care for the smell in the food.

Barb Carlson